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20:28:21 <shadowm> The loadscreen progress bar, though, I wanted to either remove it or dumb it down myself.
20:28:41 <vultraz> " and in some places people just have no option if they want to have Internet access at all." <- facebook is attempting to bring internet to every person in the world
20:28:51 <shadowm> Yeah good luck with that.
20:29:32 <shadowm> I did not rule out outright removing it, but I wasn't entirely sure because there are some add-ons (*cough* AGELESS ERA *cough*) that really take forever to load by design.
20:30:25 <shadowm> By dumbing it down I mean removing the text overlay (which is generally useless unless you are a developer working on the engine) and making it not take up half of the screen.
20:30:47 <vultraz> Dota 2 doesn;t use a progress bar
20:30:57 <shadowm> Alternatively, I considered doing the complete opposite of dumbing it down IFF debug mode is active.
20:31:08 <vultraz> wha
20:31:10 <vultraz> no
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20:33:28 <shadowm> vultraz: Being able to see exactly how long certain load stages take without having to specifically ask for it via command line would hopefuly encourage people (especially WML authors) to be more conscientious about their code footprint.
20:33:52 <shadowm> Plus in the event of an unexpected crash it can help speed up the debugging process.
20:34:18 <shadowm> "Oh the preprocessor was last looking at XYZ add-on, I'll isolate its files and see what's unusual about them."
20:34:43 <vultraz> the loadscreen tells you none of that
20:34:46 <vultraz> the error message does
20:34:46 <shadowm> Since this obviously has no value whatsoever to users, it'd be hidden behind debug mode.
20:34:55 <shadowm> That's the whole point vultraz.
20:35:36 <vultraz> you confuse me
20:35:42 <vultraz> you said dumb it down iff debug mode is active
20:36:25 <shadowm> 20:28:21 <shadowm> The loadscreen progress bar, though, I wanted to either remove it or dumb it down myself.
20:36:31 <shadowm> 20:30:57 <shadowm> Alternatively, I considered doing the complete opposite of dumbing it down IFF debug mode is active.
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20:37:41 <vultraz> I elect to remove it entirely
20:37:43 <vultraz> I'll probably do that