Feb 15 13:22:17 So we confirmed, both Minecraft^3 and Minecraft Cubed are in violation Feb 15 13:22:30 hmm Feb 15 13:22:47 So Feb 15 13:22:52 Let me read this legal document Feb 15 13:22:52 MC Cubed? Feb 15 13:22:52 holy shit Feb 15 13:22:53 clone1018, violation of what? Feb 15 13:22:59 Sanguine: Mojang's terms Feb 15 13:23:15 Because of the name? Feb 15 13:23:19 Yes. Feb 15 13:23:23 So now, because of the name Feb 15 13:23:24 i detached my case fan, put it behind my radiator, blowing through it, and i watched my cpu temp drop from 64 to 53 in less than five minutes. Feb 15 13:23:36 We apparently have to give Mojang our entire source code and all assets Feb 15 13:23:43 INCLUDING assets I built on the website Feb 15 13:24:02 And ANY profit we make on this site now and in the future must be paid to mojang Feb 15 13:24:19 So even if we change our name and the new site has ads, we have to pay mojang 100% Feb 15 13:24:21 * zavvias (webchat@37.130.48.150) has joined Feb 15 13:24:24 /apparently/ Feb 15 13:24:37 Can't you just change the name and say its a brand new project? Feb 15 13:24:53 Oh and, we have to pay 500 euros to mojang because they had to spend the time to send this nice letter Feb 15 13:25:05 clone1018: just change the name and don't respond Feb 15 13:25:09 for fuck's sake Feb 15 13:25:19 clone1018, What is different from this mod than any others? Feb 15 13:25:19 So we should ignore the lawyers? Feb 15 13:25:26 change the name. Feb 15 13:25:27 Sanguine: No difference. Feb 15 13:25:30 then ignore the lawyers Feb 15 13:25:37 lahwran: Holy crap dude, we seriously realize that Feb 15 13:25:41 You're like a broken record Feb 15 13:25:54 you keep fucking saying no! Feb 15 13:26:00 So if it is all because of the name, if you just change it then the problem should be fixed Feb 15 13:26:05 ^ Feb 15 13:26:05 * Sanguine is not a lawyer Feb 15 13:26:20 * bspkrs plays a lawyer on tv Feb 15 13:26:20 it's just karma Feb 15 13:26:43 Since never has been ignoring lawyers been a good idea Feb 15 13:26:44 oh look a mojang employee Feb 15 13:27:01 I'm sure grum has nothing to do with it Feb 15 13:27:13 i have nothing mojangsee to say about it; bit frankly it put a huge smile on my face Feb 15 13:27:25 Grum: Why? Feb 15 13:27:39 *but; after what miclee/evil_notch pulled before, he just deserves whatever he has coming to him Feb 15 13:27:42 karma 101 Feb 15 13:27:43 Haha Feb 15 13:27:58 What did Miclee/Evil_Notch pull before Grum? Feb 15 13:28:12 oooh besides trying to get me fired? enough to get aggro of Mojang Feb 15 13:28:24 How did he try and get you fired? Feb 15 13:28:29 * pahimar (~pahimar@its-robdavis09.ws.its.uwo.ca) has joined Feb 15 13:28:37 http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/vuhv4/mojang_isnt_exempt Feb 15 13:28:44 enjoy the horribly long read Feb 15 13:28:57 Thanks, I'll check it out Feb 15 13:29:06 * Sanguine hates Miclee as well Feb 15 13:29:15 oh also, i do not like that people get hit by his collateral damage Feb 15 13:29:24 He is pretty much just a control freak Feb 15 13:29:28 that totally sucks and is not fun at all :/ Feb 15 13:29:36 As soon as things don't go his way, he turns into a massive douchebag Feb 15 13:29:54 'as I had been waiting long over a year for an API' posted 7 months ago. lol Feb 15 13:29:59 Grum: U forgot about that Feb 15 13:30:01 I* Feb 15 13:30:58 BlackMoon: considering there were talks of a modding API in may 2011... Feb 15 13:31:03 * Cloudy (~AndChat14@dab-far1-h-1-5.dab.02.net) has joined Feb 15 13:31:10 Grum: I love how the guy who deconstructs Miclee's stuff used the username "eelcim" Feb 15 13:31:16 the reverse of miclee ... Feb 15 13:31:17 yeah talking ... everyone in this channel should know the current state of code Feb 15 13:31:26 EvilSeph says it himself in that comment on the post, if Miclee doesn't get his way, he throws a giant tantrum Feb 15 13:31:27 like how lahwran is the reverse of narwhal? Feb 15 13:31:41 pig, I just noticed that... Feb 15 13:31:42 pig: the duke nukem API! Feb 15 13:31:45 Sorry lahwran :( Feb 15 13:32:11 pig: I suck things out of people instead of stabbing things in? Feb 15 13:32:16 Sanguine: lol Feb 15 13:32:19 So, here's a question, is the reason Minecraft Cubed is the only Minecraft * project to recieve this notice, because Miclee is involved? Feb 15 13:32:24 Sanguine: that happens every few months to me Feb 15 13:32:45 * Hanselmann (webchat@ip-178-201-128-108.unitymediagroup.de) has joined Feb 15 13:32:45 clone1018: i say its a very very good possibility, but i was only informed indirectly that something happened Feb 15 13:32:59 Sanguine: I used to think that eventually everyone would know, but it always turns out that someone else finds out every few months Feb 15 13:33:01 someone remembered the nice incident we had and wanted to make me smile; it worked Feb 15 13:33:16 * jadedcat (~jadedcat@cpe-192-136-222-9.tx.res.rr.com) has joined Feb 15 13:33:21 * Tundmatu has quit (Ping timeout: 380 seconds) Feb 15 13:33:22 Grum: so you support sueing modders? Feb 15 13:33:24 lahwran, It just never dawned on me to look at your name backwards Feb 15 13:33:26 Grum: May I log/publish our conversation at a later date? Feb 15 13:33:28 BlackMoon: yes Feb 15 13:33:29 * Mead (~Mead@c-98-230-245-144.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) has joined Feb 15 13:33:46 Grum, Modders in general, or just Miclee? Feb 15 13:33:53 clone1018: under one condition; this is all my personal opinion Feb 15 13:34:01 Grum I'm pretty much of the view that if a mod is named in such a way that it seems like it's a sequel, I'm all for lawlsuit Feb 15 13:34:01 Grum: Yeah, of course Feb 15 13:34:02 Sanguine: anyone in breach of the ToU Feb 15 13:34:15 ^ Feb 15 13:34:22 Grum: I hate when people assume just because an employee said it, it meant the company Feb 15 13:34:22 Grum, Isn't that technically almost everyone who makes a mod though? Feb 15 13:34:28 clone1018: yup Feb 15 13:34:28 * Sanguine hasn't read the ToU Feb 15 13:34:32 Sanguine: nope Feb 15 13:34:40 Grum: they all reuse minecraft code sooner or later. Feb 15 13:34:48 decompiled minecraft code... Feb 15 13:34:51 Grum, So its just if someone names something "minecraft" something Feb 15 13:34:56 BlackMoon: grey area :p Feb 15 13:35:11 Sanguine: breach of ToU severe enough to act on Feb 15 13:35:20 'The One Major Rule Feb 15 13:35:20 Do not distribute anything we've made. This includes, but not limited to, the client or the server software for the game. This also includes modified versions of anything we've made.' Feb 15 13:35:23 i do not define that; that is lawyers Feb 15 13:35:38 Seems to imply that every single mod that ever has reused source code falls under that.. Feb 15 13:35:42 (taken from minecraft.net TOS) Feb 15 13:35:45 ^^ Feb 15 13:36:03 BlackMoon that's enough to say they CAN act on it Feb 15 13:36:04 So everyone should prepare to have a C&D sent to them Feb 15 13:36:07 but it's a grey area Feb 15 13:36:10 * mnewton1 (~mnewton1@c-76-99-170-226.hsd1.de.comcast.net) has joined Feb 15 13:36:11 and always has been Feb 15 13:36:16 yup Feb 15 13:36:32 Like I said earlier Feb 15 13:36:46 Hmm new profit model Feb 15 13:36:49 Make game Feb 15 13:36:54 sell game, get mods for game Feb 15 13:37:05 send $500 C&D to all modders once game stops selling well enough Feb 15 13:37:07 I'd say the reason that MC3 got hammered is because it's named like it's a sequel and also miclee has been annoying the fuck out of mojang since forever Feb 15 13:37:18 SO GRUM Feb 15 13:37:19 Grum sound like I'm right? Feb 15 13:37:21 HOW IS LIFE GOING Feb 15 13:37:28 ARE THINGS PRETTY GOOD FOR YOU Feb 15 13:37:30 ShaRose, since he got his FRIEND's suggestion added to the game, pigmen. Feb 15 13:37:35 that's when it all started Feb 15 13:37:39 yeah Feb 15 13:37:42 ShaRose: If we had named it purely Minecraft Cubed, we would have had a C&D too Feb 15 13:37:58 ... yeah, and Feb 15 13:38:01 general good practice, don't encroach on trademarks Feb 15 13:38:06 ^ Feb 15 13:38:08 regardless of project Feb 15 13:38:08 CyborgDragon: who got pigmen added? Feb 15 13:38:10 Si Feb 15 13:38:11 So Feb 15 13:38:27 tell me so I can punch them for making them non hostile and the nether a pussyfest Feb 15 13:38:29 Hey Grum, notify your lawyers they need to send a cease & desist to minecrafter.com Feb 15 13:38:30 BlackMoon, miclee tweeted his friend' suggestion/idea to notch, notch added them to the game. Feb 15 13:38:36 MOjangs lawyers* Feb 15 13:38:37 since then, miclee has become an overbearing ass Feb 15 13:38:42 lol Feb 15 13:38:56 his friend's suggestion was just pigmen, not zombie pigmen or anything Feb 15 13:38:57 And minecraft.com lol Feb 15 13:38:58 clone1018: feel free to mail mojang yourself :) Feb 15 13:39:06 .title minecraft.com Feb 15 13:39:20 Grum: cool, brands@minecraft.net right? Feb 15 13:39:28 no idea tbh :/ Feb 15 13:39:37 but i wouldnt expect too much result unless its justified :) Feb 15 13:39:40 http://minecraft.com Feb 15 13:39:43 damn bots... Feb 15 13:39:54 Grum he's doing it because he's mad, it's his site Feb 15 13:40:05 he was going to make a mod site thingy called minecrafter Feb 15 13:40:08 * BlackMoon shrugs. Feb 15 13:40:12 but he never got around to actually finishing it Feb 15 13:40:37 err opps Feb 15 13:40:40 THAT SAID though Feb 15 13:40:44 lahwran: yeah all ok here :) Feb 15 13:40:54 Thanks for your time grum Feb 15 13:40:58 imo it'd be nicer if the lawyers just let miclee change the name Feb 15 13:41:07 .title www.minecraft.org Feb 15 13:41:14 though I suppose he had to do that once before Feb 15 13:41:18 ShaRose: There's nothing saying we can't, however we still have to do what they said Feb 15 13:41:21 and was dumb enough to try that shit again Feb 15 13:41:21 ah well, title of the site was 'Minecraft - Download Minecraft for Free' Feb 15 13:41:28 ?title www.minecraft.org Feb 15 13:41:29 Minecraft - Download Minecraft for Free Feb 15 13:41:33 comes up on the first page when you google minecraft too, lol Feb 15 13:41:43 you'd think the lawyers would be a little more busy with sites like that. Feb 15 13:42:02 BlackMoon: Miclee is a funner target to poke Feb 15 13:42:25 they have taken down sites like that BlackMoon Feb 15 13:42:25 The part I hate most about this Feb 15 13:42:34 Is the work the rest of the team has poured into it Feb 15 13:43:12 agreed that is the sad part :( Feb 15 13:43:30 Grum any chance you can ask them to cool off etc? Feb 15 13:43:40 * Boogy (~LexManos@static-50-43-36-129.bvtn.or.frontiernet.net) has joined Feb 15 13:43:44 imo the only real issue is the name Feb 15 13:44:02 euuh no, i have no say Feb 15 13:44:18 hence 'ask' not 'tell' Feb 15 13:44:20 i mean, i heard from people miclee was even warned about this Feb 15 13:44:22 * worldmc is now known as worldmc|off Feb 15 13:44:24 lex your ident is still lex Feb 15 13:44:31 Grum seriously? Feb 15 13:44:50 well fuck him then he damn well knew what was going to happen and he had pulled this shit before if I recall Feb 15 13:44:58 Boogy: heh, funny name Feb 15 13:45:00 evil minecraft was forced to rename if memory serves Feb 15 13:45:00 not my mojang bt by other people Feb 15 13:45:01 ShaRose: That's not final yet, he just said he'd heard Feb 15 13:45:03 Boogy Boogy Boogy Feb 15 13:45:04 Sha, I know, I come to read, Not hide who I am. Feb 15 13:45:21 why'd you nick then :S Feb 15 13:45:25 I'm running cloc on Minecraft Cubed's source Feb 15 13:45:43 Because LexManos is banned. Feb 15 13:45:44 * jadedcat glomps cojo Feb 15 13:45:48 * baggy|college is now known as baggerboot Feb 15 13:45:53 :o Feb 15 13:45:56 you are? Feb 15 13:46:02 yep Feb 15 13:46:11 * Cojo glomps jadedcat Feb 15 13:46:25 I raised this with him months ago ShaRose, he said he knew and that other people did it so he didn't think there was a risk Feb 15 13:46:39 who is Cloudy? Feb 15 13:46:41 .... Feb 15 13:46:44 Or something like that Feb 15 13:46:49 cloudy.... nvm Feb 15 13:46:54 Don't have exact logs Feb 15 13:47:09 Boogy: not cool. Feb 15 13:47:12 this discussion makes me really glad that I don't do base class modifications at all Feb 15 13:47:14 * lahwran sets ban on $a:LexManos Feb 15 13:47:14 * tMobile4a03 (~T4@n218250226180.netvigator.com) has joined Feb 15 13:47:16 Alright so Feb 15 13:47:18 * lahwran has kicked Boogy from #risucraft (Boogy) Feb 15 13:47:26 clone1018: nobody, just a mod author Feb 15 13:47:41 lahwran why is lex banned again? Feb 15 13:47:47 i'm curious too Feb 15 13:47:53 battle of the egos Feb 15 13:47:53 ShaRose, He came in and was being an ass about modloader Feb 15 13:47:55 i mean, i know i dont own the channel any more, but i'm definitely curious. Feb 15 13:47:56 Or something like that Feb 15 13:47:57 that's why Feb 15 13:47:58 In total, the Minecraft Cubed team (almost none of this includes work by Miclee), has written 410,000 lines of code Feb 15 13:48:00 I don't know, you'd have to find the logs of when he was banned Feb 15 13:48:08 yeah, looking now Feb 15 13:48:14 If you don't remember a ban, just unban? Feb 15 13:48:16 ban evasion = bad though Feb 15 13:48:26 Oh who really gives a fuck anymore Feb 15 13:48:28 clone1018: Damnnn thats a lot of code Feb 15 13:48:36 lahwran, In all fairness, this is interesting, and I can't blame him for wanting to read it Feb 15 13:48:37 clone1018: me... Feb 15 13:48:41 * Sanguine isn't taking sides Feb 15 13:48:49 he wasn't banned Feb 15 13:48:51 from what I can tell Feb 15 13:48:52 Why? IRC is so miniscule Feb 15 13:48:52 * jadedcat has left Feb 15 13:49:01 he was, by me, months ago Feb 15 13:49:08 * #risucraft Banlist: Sun Aug 12 02:06:22 *lex*manos*!*@* lahwran!~chris_mh@ipv6.sonicrules.org Feb 15 13:49:17 ah, missed that entry Feb 15 13:49:19 * mnewton1 has quit (Quit: Rice and Corn) Feb 15 13:49:22 there's like 3 pages :V Feb 15 13:49:26 yeah heh Feb 15 13:49:43 ha found it Feb 15 13:49:58 clone1018, Who is to say you guys can't just keep the code, rename it, and keep working? Feb 15 13:50:10 Sanguine, the lawyers wanting all assets. Feb 15 13:50:17 * Zorn_Taov (~Greenfox@c-98-207-131-207.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) has joined Feb 15 13:50:51 CyborgDragon, Ah Feb 15 13:51:18 Couldn't it be negotiated to keep the assests as long as they change the name? Feb 15 13:51:21 Every single developer/artist/sound engineer/texturepackist/writer Minecraft Cubed has is an unpaid volunteer who is working on this project because they love it Feb 15 13:51:46 * Cojo is now known as Cojo|noms Feb 15 13:51:54 Anyways Feb 15 13:51:56 here: http://www.reddit.com/r/Minecraft/comments/13q0xp/minecraft%C2%B3_what_is_it/c7681vh Feb 15 13:51:57 I'm going to stop now Feb 15 13:52:02 i mean, he basically asked for it :/ Feb 15 13:52:07 but we'll wait for the backlash Feb 15 13:52:12 meanwhile i'll do some more smiling Feb 15 13:52:25 i think the context to lex's ban was that lahwran got kick/banned in #minecraftforge for pinging him Feb 15 13:52:28 Grum: That's in reference to Minecraft^3 though Feb 15 13:52:30 oh my god hahaha Feb 15 13:52:39 CyborgDragon: oh, that makes sense Feb 15 13:52:47 the idiot won't let people ping him Feb 15 13:52:49 "They just have to be prepared for the backlash." Feb 15 13:52:49 CyborgDragon I don't have FLP installed :( Feb 15 13:52:51 Oh come on Miclee Feb 15 13:52:53 fucking hell Feb 15 13:53:18 clone1018: no, 'they' is Mojang Feb 15 13:53:20 clone1018 so yeah, miclee fucked you guys over Feb 15 13:53:33 Grum: No yeah I realize Feb 15 13:53:40 so lahwran bans someone for what they do in a totaly unrelated channel? No conflict of intrest there, nope.. Feb 15 13:53:47 He literally did ask for it Feb 15 13:53:49 Grum, thanks for the context on the Karma comment... that makes it crystal Feb 15 13:53:50 "If Mojang wants to go after us for infringement for making free content for their game, they can do so. They just have to be prepared for the backlash." Feb 15 13:53:52 BlackMoon: lahwran bans everyone for everything Feb 15 13:53:59 I don't know why Risugami gave him op again Feb 15 13:54:02 bspkrs: i'll do some more smiling Feb 15 13:54:03 clone1018: iv noticed, its why I don't like to talk to him anymore. Feb 15 13:54:04 /kickban clone1018 no I don't Feb 15 13:54:06 http://i.imgur.com/GBaHMZg.png just in case he baleets the comments Feb 15 13:54:15 clone1018: sorry that you got caught in the shitstorm that is called miclee Feb 15 13:54:23 Grum: I was fully aware of what I was going into Feb 15 13:54:36 lahwran, ShaRose, https://gist.github.com/anonymous/cf863559dbc3291a96b9 context on the ban on lex. Feb 15 13:54:50 well tiny bit less symphathy then from me ;P Feb 15 13:54:59 !unban lexmanos Feb 15 13:54:59 * zsh removes ban on *lex*manos*!*@* Feb 15 13:54:59 * zsh removes ban on $a:LexManos Feb 15 13:55:04 I don't pick people Grum, I pick projects Feb 15 13:55:08 yeeahhh don't do that Feb 15 13:55:19 clone1018, Fully? Have you ever benn on the receiving end of one of Miclee's tantrums? Feb 15 13:55:21 missing context as to why mrdare says "You are so dead", which i assume the context is lahwran joining #minecraftforge and pinging lex Feb 15 13:55:21 ShaRose: .... Feb 15 13:55:27 Sanguine: Duh? Feb 15 13:55:28 mildly annoying lahwran = permaban, Noted. Feb 15 13:55:35 I've known Miclee longer then your testicles have worked Feb 15 13:55:40 it's _lexmanos_ Feb 15 13:55:42 lahwran personal bans == no Feb 15 13:55:49 it's _fucking lexmanos_ Feb 15 13:55:51 his tantrums include: tweeting on two accounts, spamming on irc, setting up others to annoy you, mailing your boss Feb 15 13:55:56 aka: being a fucking little biatch Feb 15 13:56:00 lahwran: so find a legit reason to permaban him Feb 15 13:56:05 oh i forgot reddit Feb 15 13:56:09 So what you ignorant twat lahwran fuck just stop being such a prick on IRC Feb 15 13:56:13 you find a rule he's breaking? sure Feb 15 13:56:14 it really is unfortunate... I just watched all the tweeted MC^3 videos and want to contribute Feb 15 13:56:18 cloned modloader for the sole purpose of driving the real one out of business Feb 15 13:56:18 personal bans I will undo Feb 15 13:56:28 lahwran no he didn't you moron Feb 15 13:56:47 Lunatrius, how I turn off the schematic if I dont need it yet? Feb 15 13:56:49 they rewrote modloader to improve it and add features Feb 15 13:57:05 well, and permissions I suppose Feb 15 13:57:21 risu straight up ignores permission requests Feb 15 13:57:22 Bugboy1028, just hide it Feb 15 13:57:30 ah. Feb 15 13:57:32 Thansk Feb 15 13:58:00 risu pretty much ignores all feature requests from what I've seen Feb 15 13:58:04 Grum, i'm waiting for him to post on reddit about this most recent event. Feb 15 13:58:09 it'll be fun to watch. Feb 15 13:58:11 ^ Feb 15 13:58:19 ^++ Feb 15 13:58:21 Risu: add a rendar hoak! :< Feb 15 13:58:29 CyborgDragon: his rain of complaints on twitter are a good start Feb 15 13:58:44 CyborgDragon nah Feb 15 13:58:47 https://twitter.com/Evil_Notch Feb 15 13:58:51 Grum, yeah but on reddit you get to see people tearing back into him :P Feb 15 13:58:53 the r/minecraft mods are well aware of the issue Feb 15 13:58:59 and are on "remove on sight" mode Feb 15 13:59:41 ShaRose, but whyyyyyyyyyyyyyy Feb 15 13:59:42 yeah which is why he posted in r/gaming :p Feb 15 13:59:47 (before) Feb 15 13:59:53 because no-one likes miclee Feb 15 13:59:58 his drama is so fun to watch :( Feb 15 14:00:11 it's like watching a plane crash into a train that's derailed. Feb 15 14:00:19 CyborgDragon: lol Feb 15 14:00:20 horrifically beautiful. Feb 15 14:00:25 CyborgDragon, Oh my Feb 15 14:00:25 CyborgDragon++ Feb 15 14:00:26 CyborgDragon == 5 Feb 15 14:00:28 CyborgDragon++ Feb 15 14:00:29 CyborgDragon == 6 Feb 15 14:00:33 solution > CyborgDragon Feb 15 14:00:38 hahah Feb 15 14:00:46 so many pings ._. Feb 15 14:00:46 So its settled Feb 15 14:00:52 hahah Feb 15 14:00:56 <@lahwran> cloned modloader for the sole purpose of driving the real one out of business <-- that implies there WAS business Feb 15 14:00:59 we put notch on a train, derail it and crash miclee in a plane into it. Feb 15 14:01:00 * zsh removes channel operator status from lahwran Feb 15 14:01:02 Grum: there was Feb 15 14:01:09 no there wasn't Feb 15 14:01:09 risugami makes money off of modloader Feb 15 14:01:19 and? Feb 15 14:01:22 purely through 'donations' of adf.ly Feb 15 14:01:29 made money of modloader? Feb 15 14:01:32 Forge wasn't created to drive the real one out of business Feb 15 14:01:39 because if he still makes ... why so problem!? Feb 15 14:01:41 Grum adf.ly etc Feb 15 14:01:55 I gurantee risu still makes some decent pocket change off modloader Feb 15 14:01:55 Forge was created becuase one solution is never enough Feb 15 14:02:01 But it was never really about money Feb 15 14:02:12 r4wk-work actually fml was made for two reasons Feb 15 14:02:24 Forge needed some modloader, risu wouldn't budge (he has the right to do that), so they made their own Feb 15 14:02:25 FML != Forge btw Feb 15 14:02:28 Nothing wrong their Feb 15 14:02:30 You can't make a lot of money off mods anyway. Feb 15 14:02:32 if anything, the only reason it's still updated is because someone hasn't made a completely better API Feb 15 14:02:33 1) risu always and still does ignore permission requests Feb 15 14:02:47 I can buy a Kebab once every 2 months with the money I get. Feb 15 14:02:48 yes i understand FML Feb 15 14:02:51 i was talking Forge itself Feb 15 14:02:58 2) forge / lex always wanted things done 'right' and modloader was always made to be fast and easy to update Feb 15 14:03:09 Lunatrius, at one point i believe risu made 300 a month off it :P Feb 15 14:03:14 lol Feb 15 14:03:31 considering every click is fractions of a penny...that's a lot of clicks. Feb 15 14:03:39 300 a month was me Feb 15 14:03:42 * GeminiRai has quit () Feb 15 14:03:43 risu was like 8 times that Feb 15 14:03:45 oh Feb 15 14:03:46 lol Feb 15 14:03:50 fuzzy memory Feb 15 14:03:55 Risu had a 1000~ or something Feb 15 14:03:56 wat Feb 15 14:04:15 Lunatrius, adf.ly used to give out like half a cent for every click, instead of a hundredth of a cent Feb 15 14:04:18 so it kind of makes sense. Feb 15 14:04:30 you just sunk my battleship Feb 15 14:04:33 no, it was always a tenth of a cent ... Feb 15 14:04:33 Oh, makes sense. Feb 15 14:04:36 clone1018 dinnerbone is saying all he needs to do is change the name Feb 15 14:04:42 So your saying risu should of had a monopoly and nobody should be allowed to compeat? :P Feb 15 14:04:44 20th of a cent actually Feb 15 14:04:45 and that all this all assets are mojang's stuff is a lie Feb 15 14:04:47 1000 for $5 Feb 15 14:04:50 do you have a copy of the email? Feb 15 14:04:50 or something Feb 15 14:04:52 Else stop being butthurt over forge Feb 15 14:04:52 no I'm derping Feb 15 14:04:53 ignore me Feb 15 14:05:11 Money per click depends on the country Feb 15 14:05:14 * Moose\Away is now known as Moose Feb 15 14:05:21 lahwran can't math Feb 15 14:05:33 BlackMoon, No? Where are you getting that from? Feb 15 14:05:44 .js 1000/(0.60828/485) Feb 15 14:05:44 Lunatrius: 797330.1768922205 Feb 15 14:05:56 * SurpriseTRex_ (~a@cpc6-staf8-2-0-cust983.3-1.cable.virginmedia.com) has joined Feb 15 14:06:06 Sounds fair enough. Feb 15 14:06:21 clone1018 have you read the email in question Feb 15 14:06:27 800k downloads shouldn't be much of a problem with ModLoader and all the mods that come with it. Feb 15 14:06:48 * SurpriseTRex has quit (Ping timeout: 190 seconds) Feb 15 14:06:56 [Friday 03:36:04 pm] Dinnerbone We sent him a C&D Feb 15 14:06:58 [Friday 03:36:05 pm] Dinnerbone That's it Feb 15 14:06:59 [Friday 03:36:22 pm] Dinnerbone Unless he gives the email away somewhere, don't listen to a thing they tweet Feb 15 14:07:21 ShaRose, So miclee is full of shit in a bid to turn people againts mojang? Feb 15 14:07:24 lol Feb 15 14:07:28 adfly talk Feb 15 14:07:38 * pig makes decently from it Lunatrius Feb 15 14:07:42 Sanguine if dinnerbone is right? yeah Feb 15 14:07:44 :< Feb 15 14:07:47 i'd say, at this point, all the people developing MC^3 should drop miclee, lol. Keep developing it, change the name, drop miclee. Feb 15 14:07:54 * Cojo|noms is now known as Cojo Feb 15 14:07:59 ^ Feb 15 14:07:59 enough to feed myself each day for a month or so Feb 15 14:08:02 CyborgDragon last mod he ran did that too actually Feb 15 14:08:07 so did the game he started Feb 15 14:08:11 not a really good meal, but enough to keep the stomach full Feb 15 14:08:17 I want to make enough for 2 or 3 kebabs :3 Feb 15 14:08:31 ShaRose, he started a game? Feb 15 14:08:34 Sanguine, http://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/vuhv4/mojang_isnt_exempt << he made this post on Reddit in r/gaming where we had less/no influence purely to make Mojang look bad Feb 15 14:08:52 * Fligabob has quit (Ping timeout: 190 seconds) Feb 15 14:08:52 just looking at that, alone, makes his intentions clear Feb 15 14:08:54 EvilSeph: don't worry, grum has said everything necessary already Feb 15 14:09:05 hm, I don't have voice Feb 15 14:09:07 interesting Feb 15 14:09:08 !op Feb 15 14:09:09 * zsh gives channel operator status to lahwran Feb 15 14:09:13 * lahwran gives voice to lahwran Feb 15 14:09:13 !op Feb 15 14:09:15 !deop Feb 15 14:09:15 * Shocky removes channel operator status from lahwran Feb 15 14:09:15 * zsh removes channel operator status from lahwran Feb 15 14:09:21 * lahwran pokes Shocky Feb 15 14:09:31 lahwran you could have just used !voice... Feb 15 14:09:40 EvilSeph, Love where he pretty much asks you guys to sue him in that post Feb 15 14:09:40 if he really was concerned with Mojang's conduct and how it affects the community, he wouldn't have gone out of his way to try and ensure he wins Feb 15 14:09:45 any CyborgDragon yes Feb 15 14:09:45 ShaRose: oh Feb 15 14:09:48 ShaRose: I have the legal document which I've read, which included what I've said. Feb 15 14:09:49 * Hanselmann has quit (Ping timeout: 180 seconds) Feb 15 14:09:51 He is just throwing a Tantrum Feb 15 14:09:52 ShaRose: lahwran is derp Feb 15 14:10:01 clone1018 can I see it or no? Feb 15 14:10:09 that shows how much you suck as an op lahwran Feb 15 14:10:16 * Lunatrius is away for noms Feb 15 14:10:17